am i going to be in trouble? lol
Anyone who has been on-line since the late 90s can tell you that the Internet is not what it used to be. At least not in the Malaysian scene anyway. If we didn’t like someone on the Net, we’d thrash them out on the Net. If we disagreed with something on the Net, we’d reply back with fury and seemingly convictions informing the culprit of what we thought went wrong. Everything that happened on the Internet, stays on the Internet. Applicable to IRC, forums, websites and much later, blogs. This understanding worked, and it was a very good system because everyone could bloody well go on with their lives in the real world. Just ask a few of my close friends linked on my sidebar who have been on-line since the mid-90s and they would tell you the same. Me? Well 2007 is only my 10th year of using the Internet, so what do I know, right?
You would notice that I don’t really talk much about what’s happening to other bloggers and the blogosphere in general these days. What is there to talk about anywhere? My enthusiasm for the growth of the local blogosphere is unfortunately waning, so I just concentrate on my own blog and those that I still read frequently or from time to time. Too much have changed into the direction that I personally do not like, but c’est la vie. Maybe it’s gone good for some, worse for others, same to the rest of them. Not to say that I do not keep up with what’s happening in the blogosphere, but it is hard to keep up especially when real life beckons. I do keep myself updated from time to time, just that I do not talk about it on my blog.
Gone are the days when you can talk about anything and everything under the sky on the Internet, and get away with it. Not that this is a bad thing — some people do need to keep their traps shut. But I am not the authority to tell them that, so I keep quiet lor. The age old wisdom of mind over matter ( I don’t mind, you don’t matter ) applies. It is only inevitable after all — Internet access is becoming increasingly affordable, people are making their marks on-line their own ways, fine by me. Perhaps I was just thinking of the old days when people who knew how to use the Internet were more savvy people, and come with their own sets of intelligence and humour that I appreciated. Those days too are (almost) gone, and that makes me more thankful to be hanging out with people who continue to retain the same mindsets.
Also gone are the altruistic days of campaigning for the rights of the trodden, without being tarnished (?) by any political parties or agendas. Blogs written and maintained not for the sole reason of making money? Earth calling Suanie. Unscrupulous people making use of blogs and bloggers for their own selfish means? A dime a dozen, take your pick. People who don’t understand the nature of the Internet actually using it? People who don’t understand the nature of the Intenet lodging police reports against the people who don’t understand the nature of the Internet who are using it? These, my fellow friends and bloggers, are the days of our lives.
I am not in full support of RPK and his site’s commentors. Frankly speaking, I think a lot of stuff there are crap. But they are not without their merit. When you reside in a country that has severe lack of press freedom (I said lack of, not totally without) and people cower in the face of authority (never mind that we are the ones who supposedly voted them in), the disgruntled are bound to find other means and avenues to deposit their thoughts and what-not, never mind if they have a cause to be disgruntled with in the first place. When this happens, how then? I would personally recommend that those in authority (or those who lodge the police report) state their rebuttals where it all begins — on the Internet. I would like to believe that people are born stupid, but along the way to adulthood, they manage to gain intelligence and the ability to judge for themselves who is right or wrong, or whether they should care less in the first place. Freedom to choose after being presented with both sides of the story, no?
But that’s me. Hi, I am Suanie.
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Who/what is RPK?
Sorry, blur sotong here
the sphere evolved.
Azmeen: RPK = raja petra of Malaysia Today site
frostier: yeah well,
‘I would like to believe that people are born stupid, but along the way to adulthood, they manage to gain intelligence ‘
Other way around! Because there are two sorts of people in the world, Stupid people, and stupid people!
‘Everything that happened on the Internet, stays on the Internet.’
I’ve been on the internet for a little over ten years (this is year 11 for me – actually, technically I’d been on bulletin boards before then, so could claim a vague longer status of having been on the net) and I can tell you that what was said on the net never stayed on the net in the old days. (At least not in Aussie).
I’ve seen friends bust up and plenty of on-line flamewars that spilled into real life. I remember when Noob was spelt Newb! [But, that's an aside].
‘Too much have changed into the direction that I personally do not like,’
You’re getting old! lol
What was kewl and hip in your day is now old and worn out. And what is kewl and hip now is just weird and scarey [to totally misquote Grandpa Simpson].
‘People who don’t understand the nature of the Intenet lodging police reports against the people who don’t understand the nature of the Internet who are using it?’
Police reports regarding internet abuse [of sorts] has been going on for over a decade. As I always tell people, if it is ILLEGAL in real life, then it is ILLEGAL on the internet.
If someone slanders you on the net, you CAN sue them.
There are no new crimes on the internet, all that’s changed is the delivery method. [And, for those who are too stupid to realise it, it's now in writing and traceable, which often makes it easier for people to sue you over it! So, play nice, or play somewhere else.]
If you’re going to say anything controversial on the net [whether political or personal], make sure you have good lawyers!
Of course not. If it’s illegal offline, it’s illegal online. Though I highly suspect that the situation here is a lot more of intimidation than crying foul whether anyone’s names got besmirched.
Suanie, you are late to the topic. Bloggers just being label Cyber criminal by some senator (hah, politikus appointed politikus).
This is the sort of topic that brings out the bastard in me. LOL
I just want to ask people one question: What are you going to do with so much “freedom”?
Mine also happens to be a rather similar case to yours Suan:
I used to troll people online just for the shits and giggles and while I could manage to keep it separated, most of my ‘victims’ couldnt handle it and ended up resenting me IRL. Which then made it even more fun to troll them somemore …
Although there has been very rare occasions where I could actually hate idiots online enough to bring it to RL, I realised that at the end of the day, I just wasting my time effort and emotions on people that I in the first place dont give a flying fcuk about.
Then I troll them somemore just to be able to lol again. ^_^
These days, I just run around in public servers nifing random noobs just to piss them off. Meh you’re right Suan, these days you cant troll anyone without the entire kampung descending upon you screaming bloody murder and bringing the term ‘emo ranger’ to a whole new level.
moo_t: why your post on it so cryptic? Who lah?
tigerjoe: heh i love your caustic remarks
freedom to choose, then they’d end up choosing the same people hahah but at least no one would complain? yayness
fox: or lodge police reports hahah
hahahaha if irc is still popular today the cops will have loads of reports of people being threaten daily… kinda remember how everyone talk thrash n bitch about each other daily. but then everytime we close the mirc window it all gets erased and does not affect our daily life.
by the way check this out
http://icyqueengoddess.blogspot.com/2007/07/blogging-perils.html
dood sent some threatening emails. police report made.. dood got caught.. dood’s dad begged… dood sent a letter plus RM100 as an appology hahahaha
damn… some of us from irc would have been really rich if we would have thought of this earlier.. but then the police weren’t as efficient on cyberspace issues 10 years back.
Hi Suanie!
Saikua – Close the IRC window and it won’t nec. get erased if the person at the other end was recording the conversation.
I know of cases which date back over 10 years where people have threatned other people on line and they had the police knocking on the door soon after. Like I said earlier, if it is illegal off-line, it’s illegal on-line and its in writing. [Plus, you'd be surprised what gets left in Cache that's had some people arrested or things left in log files on servers ... never EVER assume it all gets erased! It might be lurking somewhere!]
I remember when there were rumours of Project Echelon [where all e-mails that go through the US pass through some US Supercomputers] and the US Government used to deny it, yet now the US Government admits it was true … so … maybe EVERYTHING is being logged somewhere! Big Brother is watching! [and he's getting double plus mad!]
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Voltaire.
With words, there is no “legal” or “illegal.” Your skin is so thin, or your belief so shallow that criticism wounds you? You are scared of rebellion because what you represent is corrupt or wrong?
Then cower in fear, or correct your wrongs, because words will find you out faster than the sword.
Nice post, Suan.
I share your sentiments. A lot.
@ Dabido – Project Echelon exists and is alive an well, and not merely in the US, oh no that would be too easy.
Your corrupt Australian Govt. and my corrupt UK Govt. have aided and abetted PE since it’s inception.
http://cndyorks.gn.apc.org/mhs/
Look, learn, but don’t be paranoid because it’s way too late for that
saikua: heh good old irc days kan???
voices: hi !!
dabs: of course some people keep logs. oh well
Grant: hit a note eh
izad: oh well