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		<title>By: someone0814</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/04/05/on-lamp-berger-and-mlm/#comment-552013</link>
		<dc:creator>someone0814</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>latest new....i have been told n see for myself that RZ a.k.a RAZOr that their license has been cancel...see to believe n think to before u act</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>latest new&#8230;.i have been told n see for myself that RZ a.k.a RAZOr that their license has been cancel&#8230;see to believe n think to before u act</p>
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		<title>By: someone0814</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/04/05/on-lamp-berger-and-mlm/#comment-552012</link>
		<dc:creator>someone0814</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn....why this still exist...i have read a lot of this LB..and also have an experience of their so called "millonaire biz prewier"....can i ask ..sorry to those are in LB or so whatever..

in malaysia there are a lot of people..races and much more..we are malaysian ..

did anyone know about the product of LB/SYN..what the perfumes is make by? what kind of chemcial or ingredient to make their product?? do anyone think about it..or just think to make a money or so called to help the people..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn&#8230;.why this still exist&#8230;i have read a lot of this LB..and also have an experience of their so called &#8220;millonaire biz prewier&#8221;&#8230;.can i ask ..sorry to those are in LB or so whatever..</p>
<p>in malaysia there are a lot of people..races and much more..we are malaysian ..</p>
<p>did anyone know about the product of LB/SYN..what the perfumes is make by? what kind of chemcial or ingredient to make their product?? do anyone think about it..or just think to make a money or so called to help the people..</p>
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		<title>By: sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/04/05/on-lamp-berger-and-mlm/#comment-551911</link>
		<dc:creator>sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apologies its not .com
it is 
sandyk@smartchat.net.au 

still seeking lamp de burger oil in melbourne :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apologies its not .com<br />
it is<br />
<a href="mailto:sandyk@smartchat.net.au">sandyk@smartchat.net.au</a> </p>
<p>still seeking lamp de burger oil in melbourne <img src='http://www.suanie.net/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/04/05/on-lamp-berger-and-mlm/#comment-551909</link>
		<dc:creator>sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi where can i get lamp oil in melbourne? de berger lamp oil 
ive only been able to get it in NSW and I dont want to buy 1000 dollars worth -just a few bottles...can anyone help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi where can i get lamp oil in melbourne? de berger lamp oil<br />
ive only been able to get it in NSW and I dont want to buy 1000 dollars worth -just a few bottles&#8230;can anyone help?</p>
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		<title>By: CYT</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/04/05/on-lamp-berger-and-mlm/#comment-551311</link>
		<dc:creator>CYT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been there done that quite long ago.
Placed massive amount of time.
Used ten fold more time to win back friend's trust in you.
Though loss, i still think it work for some people.
Its just not my cup of tea.
Still respect those who does it the right way.
Learned a massive lot of skill from the trainings which helped me so much in life.

Currently a daytime engineer, night time forex trader.
And still learning investing in other capital market &#38; properties.

MLM ? To me = high risk = high effort &#38; as they say it "its a business".
9 out of 10 business fails... just a matter of time. 
I doubt they even know what constitute a business.
If thats the case, i might as well put my money on other high risk investments.

Soooo get real. 
I bet you wont listen until you see your own blood. 
Yes we may have a boss, we may work 9 to 5, we may get hit by fuel prices, property prices, inflation and stock market falls but get real, thats what real economics are made of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been there done that quite long ago.<br />
Placed massive amount of time.<br />
Used ten fold more time to win back friend&#8217;s trust in you.<br />
Though loss, i still think it work for some people.<br />
Its just not my cup of tea.<br />
Still respect those who does it the right way.<br />
Learned a massive lot of skill from the trainings which helped me so much in life.</p>
<p>Currently a daytime engineer, night time forex trader.<br />
And still learning investing in other capital market &amp; properties.</p>
<p>MLM ? To me = high risk = high effort &amp; as they say it &#8220;its a business&#8221;.<br />
9 out of 10 business fails&#8230; just a matter of time.<br />
I doubt they even know what constitute a business.<br />
If thats the case, i might as well put my money on other high risk investments.</p>
<p>Soooo get real.<br />
I bet you wont listen until you see your own blood.<br />
Yes we may have a boss, we may work 9 to 5, we may get hit by fuel prices, property prices, inflation and stock market falls but get real, thats what real economics are made of.</p>
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		<title>By: TCD</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/04/05/on-lamp-berger-and-mlm/#comment-551266</link>
		<dc:creator>TCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to say I don't need to join DCHL but am equally a happy owner of the BMW X5.
I am proud of it not because it's a luxury car, but I do it the hard and genuine and
ethical way and I reward myself with the return without compromising my own integrity
and reputation. I owe no one to my own reward and return. I don't even run a business
at all, I am just every one of you, I work my arse off but exercising sound money
management discipline. That's all. I am a forex trader, simple as that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to say I don&#8217;t need to join DCHL but am equally a happy owner of the BMW X5.<br />
I am proud of it not because it&#8217;s a luxury car, but I do it the hard and genuine and<br />
ethical way and I reward myself with the return without compromising my own integrity<br />
and reputation. I owe no one to my own reward and return. I don&#8217;t even run a business<br />
at all, I am just every one of you, I work my arse off but exercising sound money<br />
management discipline. That&#8217;s all. I am a forex trader, simple as that!</p>
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		<title>By: TCD</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/04/05/on-lamp-berger-and-mlm/#comment-551265</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what's puzzling me is that why invest $10K and work no pay to help someone up there
to earn his "share" of the $$ ? If u r really good and talented in selling, won't it be better
off joining some successful co earn a good base + sale commission ? See the diff ?

Pay $10K to do basically the cheap talk shit that one doesn't even need to know how good
or bad the products are, and work like a dog with no gurantee of return but only high
probability of compromised integrity and reputation.

Or get PAID each month for your selling skills, experience and talents!

Yeah right we see high profile successful people also get involved, almost a trustworthy
testimony of the company itself. Who is to say that they are active participants that
actually start low and work their way up to the top level ? Can the company provide
evidence to support that ? I doubt it very much. These high-profile players are simply
well off passive shareholder/investors the founder(s) bring in with agreed profit
sharing agreement among themselves, or in the corporate world you would call them
non executive directors. They are there for the image of the company as one reason
but most importantly to ensure their PASSIVE investment is getting the return by
putting their faces on a few website hoohaa party etc!

As for the what baron, marqueue, duke , they r no diff from worker bee in the
trad corporation. Yes, some have the skills, talents and LUCK to make it so good on
them. That doesn't necessarily mean they are successful. They are only LUCKILY
successful (not!) in conning others to join by projecting a delusion of franchise opp,
biz opp, financial freedom, wealth creation etc. The diff is that you get paid by your
downline, not your boss/company. Simple!

I will challenge DCHL and any MLM co for trying this. If your unsuccessful and unsatisfied
downline fail to achieve and request for quitting, you WILL be demoted automatically
and all of a sudden you don't get your monthly PASSIVE income, now tell me if this is
still a dream career/biz! Remember, you are only getting paid simply by exploiting the
downline you recruit. Why dont we see any MLM implementing a system that has the
demotion policy in place ? Because if they do that, all of a suddent it will not be easy
as sit back and not doing nothing just enjoy life and passive residual income buddy!

Please be reminded if you are or at least you are delusioned to think that you are
successful to get to the to top level, that's not because you are successful, it's because
you LUCKY to exploit the system or should I say scam early enough and please don't
sing team work or caring tunes that you care for your downline to help them grow etc.
That's all bs and we all know it. U do it so that i get your cut of the $ that' it. You are
only successful because you betray your own conscience, integrity, reputation and
hardwork of your downline who are buying just a dream or delusion, and usually very
unsuspecting and naive and trusting but NOT gullible!

Success isn't about showing off CLK or X5 and do some Anthony Robbin spiritual talk
and annual hoohaa party with inspiring life experience sharing. It's about how your
hardwork actually earns you in a socially and morally responsible manner.

If you are selling LB, how much do u actually understand the product itself ? The sales
and marketing strategy ? Product roadmap ? Competitive study ? Product quality testing?
At least if I work for BMW as a salesperson, I can produce a well and genuinely prepared
competitive analysis and report again say Merc, Audi to plan for my new product
design, influence marketing &#38; sales strategy! 

DCHL so-called marketing and sales strategy is no more than, forget about the
product, it's not even important (might as well make it irrelevant), just focus on 
recruiting 5 members (through an "EDUCATIONAL" process, how nice) who equally
will no nothing about the products and selling but willing to participate! So the overall
marketing &#38; sales strategy is in fact crystal clear, it's a RECRUITMENT strategy!

Man that's prob. enough for now ... until I even bother to say more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s puzzling me is that why invest $10K and work no pay to help someone up there<br />
to earn his &#8220;share&#8221; of the $$ ? If u r really good and talented in selling, won&#8217;t it be better<br />
off joining some successful co earn a good base + sale commission ? See the diff ?</p>
<p>Pay $10K to do basically the cheap talk shit that one doesn&#8217;t even need to know how good<br />
or bad the products are, and work like a dog with no gurantee of return but only high<br />
probability of compromised integrity and reputation.</p>
<p>Or get PAID each month for your selling skills, experience and talents!</p>
<p>Yeah right we see high profile successful people also get involved, almost a trustworthy<br />
testimony of the company itself. Who is to say that they are active participants that<br />
actually start low and work their way up to the top level ? Can the company provide<br />
evidence to support that ? I doubt it very much. These high-profile players are simply<br />
well off passive shareholder/investors the founder(s) bring in with agreed profit<br />
sharing agreement among themselves, or in the corporate world you would call them<br />
non executive directors. They are there for the image of the company as one reason<br />
but most importantly to ensure their PASSIVE investment is getting the return by<br />
putting their faces on a few website hoohaa party etc!</p>
<p>As for the what baron, marqueue, duke , they r no diff from worker bee in the<br />
trad corporation. Yes, some have the skills, talents and LUCK to make it so good on<br />
them. That doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean they are successful. They are only LUCKILY<br />
successful (not!) in conning others to join by projecting a delusion of franchise opp,<br />
biz opp, financial freedom, wealth creation etc. The diff is that you get paid by your<br />
downline, not your boss/company. Simple!</p>
<p>I will challenge DCHL and any MLM co for trying this. If your unsuccessful and unsatisfied<br />
downline fail to achieve and request for quitting, you WILL be demoted automatically<br />
and all of a sudden you don&#8217;t get your monthly PASSIVE income, now tell me if this is<br />
still a dream career/biz! Remember, you are only getting paid simply by exploiting the<br />
downline you recruit. Why dont we see any MLM implementing a system that has the<br />
demotion policy in place ? Because if they do that, all of a suddent it will not be easy<br />
as sit back and not doing nothing just enjoy life and passive residual income buddy!</p>
<p>Please be reminded if you are or at least you are delusioned to think that you are<br />
successful to get to the to top level, that&#8217;s not because you are successful, it&#8217;s because<br />
you LUCKY to exploit the system or should I say scam early enough and please don&#8217;t<br />
sing team work or caring tunes that you care for your downline to help them grow etc.<br />
That&#8217;s all bs and we all know it. U do it so that i get your cut of the $ that&#8217; it. You are<br />
only successful because you betray your own conscience, integrity, reputation and<br />
hardwork of your downline who are buying just a dream or delusion, and usually very<br />
unsuspecting and naive and trusting but NOT gullible!</p>
<p>Success isn&#8217;t about showing off CLK or X5 and do some Anthony Robbin spiritual talk<br />
and annual hoohaa party with inspiring life experience sharing. It&#8217;s about how your<br />
hardwork actually earns you in a socially and morally responsible manner.</p>
<p>If you are selling LB, how much do u actually understand the product itself ? The sales<br />
and marketing strategy ? Product roadmap ? Competitive study ? Product quality testing?<br />
At least if I work for BMW as a salesperson, I can produce a well and genuinely prepared<br />
competitive analysis and report again say Merc, Audi to plan for my new product<br />
design, influence marketing &amp; sales strategy! </p>
<p>DCHL so-called marketing and sales strategy is no more than, forget about the<br />
product, it&#8217;s not even important (might as well make it irrelevant), just focus on<br />
recruiting 5 members (through an &#8220;EDUCATIONAL&#8221; process, how nice) who equally<br />
will no nothing about the products and selling but willing to participate! So the overall<br />
marketing &amp; sales strategy is in fact crystal clear, it&#8217;s a RECRUITMENT strategy!</p>
<p>Man that&#8217;s prob. enough for now &#8230; until I even bother to say more.</p>
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		<title>By: kai see</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/04/05/on-lamp-berger-and-mlm/#comment-550777</link>
		<dc:creator>kai see</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think SYN is developing into a cult.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNbqzSj0W4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpHV9Gajvkw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtjA7veYnf8

gurls in tudung also kinna already. hahah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think SYN is developing into a cult.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNbqzSj0W4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNbqzSj0W4</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpHV9Gajvkw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpHV9Gajvkw</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtjA7veYnf8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtjA7veYnf8</a></p>
<p>gurls in tudung also kinna already. hahah.</p>
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		<title>By: ameen</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/04/05/on-lamp-berger-and-mlm/#comment-540421</link>
		<dc:creator>ameen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good article... as usual i'm posting comment so that this kind of website stayed on top of google result. need to spread the word...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good article&#8230; as usual i&#8217;m posting comment so that this kind of website stayed on top of google result. need to spread the word&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cikda</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/04/05/on-lamp-berger-and-mlm/#comment-539211</link>
		<dc:creator>cikda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 05:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shs... what business is that... try to prove to us it is a "real" business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shs&#8230; what business is that&#8230; try to prove to us it is a &#8220;real&#8221; business.</p>
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