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		<title>By: Thoughtful person</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thoughtful person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my humble hypothesis is:

 Suanie &amp; co are surely good &quot;catalyst&quot; for the next bloody racial riots after 12th GE
 (maybe).

 The malays won&#039;t give their rights up easily, especially their beloved education institute,I mean mrsm and uitm.Even most of the kampung folks were shredding their tears during the time when Dato&#039; Nazri said that 10% of the places in mrsm would be allocated to the non-bumis,but finally they had to accept it for the sake of national unity.If the uitm was about to be opened to the non malays,just imagine how atrociously the malays will respond.Perhaps raged orang kampongs would march on the streets and cursing AAB for his lembikness in defending their rights, which are legally mentioned under the article 153 of malaysian constitution. 

  The main problem within this country,which until now is still yet to be resolved is the economic disparity between races,especially between malays and chinese. If the chinese feel that they are being marginalized(despite monopolizing and conquering almost every economic sector+racist+kiasu attitude towards other races), the malays also feel that their lives before and after independence is still unchanged.I mean,although they are also hardworking,smart and despite being the majority within this democratic country,they still couldn&#039;t compete equally with other races,especially the chinese.I strongly believe if the NEP was succesfully abolished, the country then would be turning back to the pre-1969, and I&#039;m 100% sure that another devastating racial clashes would happen.

 To the non-malays,please respect the malays no matter how pissed you are to the si lembik AAP,r-AP-idah,UMNOputra or Barang Naik govermenet. They are, since the independence have sacrifice so much of their rights and almost being toleratable and considerate to other races in order to satisfy them,although they are being backstabbed and pissed off in return. Do not forget that the malays are:
   1) Indigenous people of malaya, together with orang asli and other bumiputra of sabah and sarawak before colonization( history never lies,so do not wasting your valuable time doing some crappy research bout origins of the malays;they do had civilization and self-governance before the arrival of the colonials,they didn&#039;t asked the west to colonize them)
   2) the malays,based on the population studies done in malaysia are still the majority within this country,and as we all learn in democracy,the power will always be in the hands of the majority.MCA, MIC and gerakan realize this fact,and that&#039;s why they will never openly oppose the UMNO,instead they are working together to form multi-racial,power-sharing BN,only to be turned down by AAB lembikness to become &quot;Barang Naik&quot; party.
  3) remember that the malays are still controlling and dominating vital organs of the country; public service, police force and the also big one, the army. If non malays,with their arrogance and stupidness think to directly challange the malays, they should be ready to oppose also the police and army, which are defenitely will on the side of their cousins and relatives. If the non-malays are about to summon help from the foreigners,the malays will be vieving them as a traitor to the country,or the worst as the proxy of their origin country to wrestle malaya from the malays.Malays are known for their &quot;dendam kesumat&quot; and it is possible if the country was forcely counquered and the malays were given choices about people that they would want to kill first, they would said the non-malays rather than the foreign soldiers. 

 Tha malays, I think has two things in their mind; mengalah and also mengamok.They are very tolerateble towards others, but if anyone who think they are strong and brave enough to test their tolerance level,expect to see parangs and bullets flying on the streets. When that happens,malaysia will be as good as dead!

 Think malaysian as a whole, rather than with one-sided,racial based minded.

aiyoo,feeling so headache aaa!

 to suanie: be a good girl &amp; have a nice day ; P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my humble hypothesis is:</p>
<p> Suanie &amp; co are surely good &#8220;catalyst&#8221; for the next bloody racial riots after 12th GE<br />
 (maybe).</p>
<p> The malays won&#8217;t give their rights up easily, especially their beloved education institute,I mean mrsm and uitm.Even most of the kampung folks were shredding their tears during the time when Dato&#8217; Nazri said that 10% of the places in mrsm would be allocated to the non-bumis,but finally they had to accept it for the sake of national unity.If the uitm was about to be opened to the non malays,just imagine how atrociously the malays will respond.Perhaps raged orang kampongs would march on the streets and cursing AAB for his lembikness in defending their rights, which are legally mentioned under the article 153 of malaysian constitution. </p>
<p>  The main problem within this country,which until now is still yet to be resolved is the economic disparity between races,especially between malays and chinese. If the chinese feel that they are being marginalized(despite monopolizing and conquering almost every economic sector+racist+kiasu attitude towards other races), the malays also feel that their lives before and after independence is still unchanged.I mean,although they are also hardworking,smart and despite being the majority within this democratic country,they still couldn&#8217;t compete equally with other races,especially the chinese.I strongly believe if the NEP was succesfully abolished, the country then would be turning back to the pre-1969, and I&#8217;m 100% sure that another devastating racial clashes would happen.</p>
<p> To the non-malays,please respect the malays no matter how pissed you are to the si lembik AAP,r-AP-idah,UMNOputra or Barang Naik govermenet. They are, since the independence have sacrifice so much of their rights and almost being toleratable and considerate to other races in order to satisfy them,although they are being backstabbed and pissed off in return. Do not forget that the malays are:<br />
   1) Indigenous people of malaya, together with orang asli and other bumiputra of sabah and sarawak before colonization( history never lies,so do not wasting your valuable time doing some crappy research bout origins of the malays;they do had civilization and self-governance before the arrival of the colonials,they didn&#8217;t asked the west to colonize them)<br />
   2) the malays,based on the population studies done in malaysia are still the majority within this country,and as we all learn in democracy,the power will always be in the hands of the majority.MCA, MIC and gerakan realize this fact,and that&#8217;s why they will never openly oppose the UMNO,instead they are working together to form multi-racial,power-sharing BN,only to be turned down by AAB lembikness to become &#8220;Barang Naik&#8221; party.<br />
  3) remember that the malays are still controlling and dominating vital organs of the country; public service, police force and the also big one, the army. If non malays,with their arrogance and stupidness think to directly challange the malays, they should be ready to oppose also the police and army, which are defenitely will on the side of their cousins and relatives. If the non-malays are about to summon help from the foreigners,the malays will be vieving them as a traitor to the country,or the worst as the proxy of their origin country to wrestle malaya from the malays.Malays are known for their &#8220;dendam kesumat&#8221; and it is possible if the country was forcely counquered and the malays were given choices about people that they would want to kill first, they would said the non-malays rather than the foreign soldiers. </p>
<p> Tha malays, I think has two things in their mind; mengalah and also mengamok.They are very tolerateble towards others, but if anyone who think they are strong and brave enough to test their tolerance level,expect to see parangs and bullets flying on the streets. When that happens,malaysia will be as good as dead!</p>
<p> Think malaysian as a whole, rather than with one-sided,racial based minded.</p>
<p>aiyoo,feeling so headache aaa!</p>
<p> to suanie: be a good girl &amp; have a nice day ; P</p>
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		<title>By: Maverick SM</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/01/18/whither-rights-race-nationality/#comment-7013</link>
		<dc:creator>Maverick SM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 12:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not that I am a Chinese that I readily identify myself in association with the Chinese from China, Singapore or Taiwan. However, who do I identify with as a community? I am labeled as non-Bumi, Pendatang luar, cannot enjoy the NEP which is National Economic Policy, cannot buy ASM shares, not entitled to get APs, cannot have a PKK registered licence with Bumi-status,do not enjoy discounts of 15% for buying houses. My children who vie for places in public Uni will have to be second-rated and not allowed to apply to join UiTM. There is a quota system to follow which clearly differentiate me from the others. There is UMNO which I am not allowed to join, except in MCA.

How do I associate myself with except in common grounds such as - paying taxes, greasing the system enforcers, and casting my votes.

The political system that ruled the nation clearly define each race as it&#039;s own entity. UMNO labels me as Chinese; they never called me a Malaysian during their AGM. It&#039;s only during the general election that I am called Malaysian. Thereafter, I remain a Chinese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that I am a Chinese that I readily identify myself in association with the Chinese from China, Singapore or Taiwan. However, who do I identify with as a community? I am labeled as non-Bumi, Pendatang luar, cannot enjoy the NEP which is National Economic Policy, cannot buy ASM shares, not entitled to get APs, cannot have a PKK registered licence with Bumi-status,do not enjoy discounts of 15% for buying houses. My children who vie for places in public Uni will have to be second-rated and not allowed to apply to join UiTM. There is a quota system to follow which clearly differentiate me from the others. There is UMNO which I am not allowed to join, except in MCA.</p>
<p>How do I associate myself with except in common grounds such as &#8211; paying taxes, greasing the system enforcers, and casting my votes.</p>
<p>The political system that ruled the nation clearly define each race as it&#8217;s own entity. UMNO labels me as Chinese; they never called me a Malaysian during their AGM. It&#8217;s only during the general election that I am called Malaysian. Thereafter, I remain a Chinese.</p>
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		<title>By: Iris Fam</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/01/18/whither-rights-race-nationality/#comment-5938</link>
		<dc:creator>Iris Fam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hear hear Suanie!!
u tell it like it is! 

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hear hear Suanie!!<br />
u tell it like it is! </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.suanie.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dabido(Teflon)</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/01/18/whither-rights-race-nationality/#comment-5919</link>
		<dc:creator>Dabido(Teflon)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG!  I arrived in Malaysia in 1969 ... hope that May 13th incident wasn&#039;t because of something I said!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG!  I arrived in Malaysia in 1969 &#8230; hope that May 13th incident wasn&#8217;t because of something I said!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: JiunWei</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/01/18/whither-rights-race-nationality/#comment-5918</link>
		<dc:creator>JiunWei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yothemans: i have also asked around about this issue. what i understand is lee kuan yew was asked to leave by Tunku because his influence was too strong among the Chinese in S&#039;pore and is spreading to the Penisula. He was proposing for a Malaysian&#039;s Malaysia which denounce artice 153; equal rights to ALL MALAYSIANS... 

ps. an interesting quote i heard was also that Tunku was afraid that Lee Kuan Yew would ran and became the PM of M&#039;sia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yothemans: i have also asked around about this issue. what i understand is lee kuan yew was asked to leave by Tunku because his influence was too strong among the Chinese in S&#8217;pore and is spreading to the Penisula. He was proposing for a Malaysian&#8217;s Malaysia which denounce artice 153; equal rights to ALL MALAYSIANS&#8230; </p>
<p>ps. an interesting quote i heard was also that Tunku was afraid that Lee Kuan Yew would ran and became the PM of M&#8217;sia</p>
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		<title>By: JiunWei</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/01/18/whither-rights-race-nationality/#comment-5917</link>
		<dc:creator>JiunWei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i totally love my country and i would stand up for any insult directed to her. i always insult my friends from JB who cannot speak a single word of Malay and can&#039;t even sing my the national anthem (cause they have been stidying in S&#039;pore all thier life)But at the same time i cherish all the tradition that my grandma used to do... even though i dun understand most of it, but i see them as part of a chinese culture assimilated into a malaysian... something that make us Chinese Malaysian different.

But looking back at the issue... what make a chinese unMalaysian? or even a indian unMalaysian? Look at S&#039;pore. There have almost the same kind of community as M&#039;sia, but they do not have to fill a &quot;race&quot; column in many forms... And in Malaysia, we still have this... I wonder if i could generalised this as Malaysia simply have impartial system for different races? 

To me, the government must first treat its people the same... be it a Chinese, Indian or Malay... the government must first let us feel belong... make everyone feel the same, as brothers and sisters... the ball is in thier court now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i totally love my country and i would stand up for any insult directed to her. i always insult my friends from JB who cannot speak a single word of Malay and can&#8217;t even sing my the national anthem (cause they have been stidying in S&#8217;pore all thier life)But at the same time i cherish all the tradition that my grandma used to do&#8230; even though i dun understand most of it, but i see them as part of a chinese culture assimilated into a malaysian&#8230; something that make us Chinese Malaysian different.</p>
<p>But looking back at the issue&#8230; what make a chinese unMalaysian? or even a indian unMalaysian? Look at S&#8217;pore. There have almost the same kind of community as M&#8217;sia, but they do not have to fill a &#8220;race&#8221; column in many forms&#8230; And in Malaysia, we still have this&#8230; I wonder if i could generalised this as Malaysia simply have impartial system for different races? </p>
<p>To me, the government must first treat its people the same&#8230; be it a Chinese, Indian or Malay&#8230; the government must first let us feel belong&#8230; make everyone feel the same, as brothers and sisters&#8230; the ball is in thier court now</p>
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		<title>By: vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/01/18/whither-rights-race-nationality/#comment-5890</link>
		<dc:creator>vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yothemans : You should go back to school or something and read up your history before you spew crap. Singapore left Malaysia in 1965. The May 13th incident, as you said, happened in 1969.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yothemans : You should go back to school or something and read up your history before you spew crap. Singapore left Malaysia in 1965. The May 13th incident, as you said, happened in 1969.</p>
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		<title>By: Laynie</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/01/18/whither-rights-race-nationality/#comment-5883</link>
		<dc:creator>Laynie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I embrace both. As patriotic as I am, I&#039;m not going to neglect my Chinese heritage. I am proud of it and I also wish to know much more about it than I currently do.

Being Malaysian isn&#039;t something I have to prove by waving in everyone&#039;s face. Likewise with being Chinese. I just AM Malaysian and at the same time I AM Chinese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I embrace both. As patriotic as I am, I&#8217;m not going to neglect my Chinese heritage. I am proud of it and I also wish to know much more about it than I currently do.</p>
<p>Being Malaysian isn&#8217;t something I have to prove by waving in everyone&#8217;s face. Likewise with being Chinese. I just AM Malaysian and at the same time I AM Chinese.</p>
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		<title>By: SK</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/01/18/whither-rights-race-nationality/#comment-5881</link>
		<dc:creator>SK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 06:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suanie is smart and pretty, and according to someone, she totally deserve a boyfriend.

So, why wait? DATE HER, GO!!!

&lt;strong&gt;Suanie:
pandai pun :P&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suanie is smart and pretty, and according to someone, she totally deserve a boyfriend.</p>
<p>So, why wait? DATE HER, GO!!!</p>
<p><strong>Suanie:<br />
pandai pun <img src='http://www.suanie.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: yothemans</title>
		<link>http://www.suanie.net/2006/01/18/whither-rights-race-nationality/#comment-5874</link>
		<dc:creator>yothemans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually wanted to blog about article 153,but since you have blog something related to it ,nvm la

1 Question, i think most of Malaysian have thought that Singapore is the one that requested to separate from Malaysia rite???

I went and ask around from Malaysian,who requested to be separated? Msia or Sg.100% of the answer i get is SG. 

Actually it is our Tunku Abdul Rahman PM that ask Singapore to leave Malaysia because for the 13May1969 race riot.

If i remember correctly,this was never published in our school history textbook.

Lee Kuan Yew was against article 153. Read here how and why Singapore was kick out .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew

Guess from what we see today, Harry made a successfully wise choice!

quote me if i am wrong.

&lt;strong&gt;Suanie:
a lot of things you wouldn&#039;t learn in your history books. if it is your interest, you will learn more upon entering the &#039;real world&#039;. but by then you wouldn&#039;t be able to say who is right or who is wrong, because as corny as it sounds, there is truly no right or wrong, in the history picture anyway. 

Most Chinese at that time would have disagreed with the article 153. Most Chinese are self-serving ;)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually wanted to blog about article 153,but since you have blog something related to it ,nvm la</p>
<p>1 Question, i think most of Malaysian have thought that Singapore is the one that requested to separate from Malaysia rite???</p>
<p>I went and ask around from Malaysian,who requested to be separated? Msia or Sg.100% of the answer i get is SG. </p>
<p>Actually it is our Tunku Abdul Rahman PM that ask Singapore to leave Malaysia because for the 13May1969 race riot.</p>
<p>If i remember correctly,this was never published in our school history textbook.</p>
<p>Lee Kuan Yew was against article 153. Read here how and why Singapore was kick out .</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew</a></p>
<p>Guess from what we see today, Harry made a successfully wise choice!</p>
<p>quote me if i am wrong.</p>
<p><strong>Suanie:<br />
a lot of things you wouldn&#8217;t learn in your history books. if it is your interest, you will learn more upon entering the &#8216;real world&#8217;. but by then you wouldn&#8217;t be able to say who is right or who is wrong, because as corny as it sounds, there is truly no right or wrong, in the history picture anyway. </p>
<p>Most Chinese at that time would have disagreed with the article 153. Most Chinese are self-serving <img src='http://www.suanie.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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