whither rights, race, nationality?
Two questions by Suhaini Aznam caught my eye:
Why were Malaysians of Chinese origin so ready to identify with a Chinese from China - as opposed to a Malaysian, irrespective of racial origin?After 48 years of hoisting the flag together and sharing durians, why are some of us so unMalaysian?
I have two questions of my own.
1. To whom was the first question really directed at?
2. By what or whose yardstick do you define being Malaysian and similarly, being unMalaysian?
Let’s not pretend that I am an expert regarding my own race. Nor have I been through wars and unrest that made Malaysia what she is today. But heck, do I have some thoughts.
First of all, it is not fair to lump Malaysian Chinese (or Chinese Malaysians, whatever rocks your boat) as ready-sympathisers to the grievances suffered by the China Chinese who lodged a complaint regarding abuse they suffered under our police force (PDRM). Sure, we are all Chinese — that cannot be denied and will not be taken away.
But for better or worse, we are Malaysians. My late maternal great-grandmother and late paternal grandfather were the only members of my family whom I’ve met to have migrated from China to Tanah Melayu. Ask any Malaysian Chinese if they would ‘return to China’, the majority would say no. Because China is not our home, Malaysia is. We were born in Malaysia and a lot of us will die in Malaysia. To which country I lay my allegiance? Definitely not China. It was not where I grew up. For all the beauty of the natural landscapes and history of my racial culture, China is not where my heart is. I do not feel for China the way I feel for Malaysia. Is that enough to answer the first question? For all the masking of words, I felt that it was the hidden question.
If that question was directed at the DAP members, namely Teresa Kok and Lim Kit Siang, then I fear that it is no more than political play on the part of The Star. The history of DAP as an opposition party goes a long way back and from what little I know, has been more pro-Chinese than other political parties. However when you take the nude squat incident into consideration, I do feel that it is beyond a racial issue, regardless of the unofficial guess works that the girl in the video is a Chinese and not Malay. It is an issue of human rights abuse, by certain members of our PDRM no least. If what the China Chinese women stated in their report were true, theirs is also a serious case power and human rights abuse, far more grievous for the victims are nationals of another country. You and I have been living in this country for what little or long years; sad to say the general consensus is that the PDRM is not as just nor upright as we would like them to be. This too goes beyond the issue of race. Certainly I am not naive in believing that the police force in other countries are fair etc, but we are not in other countries. We are here, in Malaysia. At the very least, we would like to feel safer under the protection of our police force. Instead we seem to have to watch our backs all the time, especially when it comes to the police. It is a sad and demoralising situation to have developed.
Not to say that we Malaysians are all just or upright. There is a tendency in our shared culture to offer duit kopi in hopes of getting away with our offences, traffic offenses being the most common among middle class people. We don’t seem to learn. Then we wonder why the practise is always in cycle. And we complain why it seems to be like a police state these days. ‘Give also cannot, don’t give also cannot, it’s a catch-PDRM’. Ermm… no. The problem lies in ourselves too.
But I am not here to talk about that now. I seriously do not know the position of the DAP for I am not one of them, but given the girl in the video is a Malay, I would feel outrage all the same. If she were an Indian, I would still be pissed off. Dayak? Kadazan? Iban? Okay… whatever, she’s still a Malaysian and because of our history and current situation that does not seem to change for the better, that person could one day be me. I could be out with my friends at a club, then take a Panadol for not feeling well at that time, and if I were unfortunately arrested my urine result would not be favourable towards me. Wrong place, wrong time, wrong medicine, three months later would a video of me doing naked squats be distributed across the country because someone had the access and mind to record the incident? All hypothetical but stranger things have happened.
And that is the core of the entire situation. Medical practitioners have come out to say that just ten squats are not enough to obtain anything from the vagina. The length not the number matters. So why just ten? It seemed to be a routine procedure (however ineffective and illegal) than really wanting to check if there was anything hidden. That is one thing. The other is the MMS video itself; how it was taken, transferred, distributed, and why? More importantly, is this the first time it has happened? What of other unreported cases, if any? Not just illegal filming, but any other cases of police brutality? Come on, no one is stupid. The difference is that the China Chinese were willing to come out with their case and most Malaysians are not. ‘More trouble for me and my family’, they are most likely to say, ‘I might as well keep quiet and get over it.’ Who can blame them? The China Chinese, after having made the complaint and had their case taken by Teresa Kok, said that they were harrassed by the police henceafter. The 18 year old student who lodged a report with the ACA was slapped with a lawsuit by the same policeman. Datuk Nazri Aziz himself had to advise the lawsuit to be dropped, rightly explaining that it would create a fear among people who decide to complain about the police.
So, where does thy anger lies? If you think that it is still about race, then I’d have felt everything I’ve felt and typed all those words in vain. I would question if my love for my country is unfortunately much unrequited just because I do not want to see it go down the path of self-destruction, national and international relations considered.
As for being Malaysian, I am sorry if what I feel about all these issues make me unMalaysian. But for the sake of petty argument, what makes a Malaysian Malaysian, and what makes a Malaysian unMalaysian?
I was born in Malaysia, grew up in Malaysia, attended national schools in Malaysia, mixed with many friends of different races in Malaysia. I eat Malay, Chinese, Indian and fusion food all the time, I penned poems in Malay when I was young, I watch English, Chinese and some Malay movies, I listen to English, Chinese and some Malay songs, I studied some Malay Classics in Form 5 and Form 6, I went out with Malays, Chinese and Indians as well as guys of other races, I can’t write in Chinese save for my Chinese name, I can barely recognise Chinese words or Indian words, I read English material because I am more comfortable reading and using that language, I adore P. Ramlee movies and Sheila Majid’s songs, I bought Siti Nurhaliza’s first album because she is a wonderful singer, and so on and so forth.
Does this make me Malaysian? Good.
I think the efforts in promoting national sports is a joke. I don’t think many people in power actually know what they are doing and should just cease trying to cover their own behinds. I think the plan to go drap a pyramid in Egypt with a Malaysian flag is laughable and most insulting, not just to the Egyptions but also to ourselves. I think the biggest Chinese glutinous rice cake, the longest pohpiah, the tallest roti tisu and everything else bound to be included in the Malaysia Book of Records is a waste of time, effort and money. I think the whole public transport system in KL is almost a farce. I think it is unfair that my folks in Batu Pahat had to suffer unclean, muddy water for months because some soil got into the water system and the local authorities could not do anything about it for the source of the pollution came from a privately-owned estate.
Does that make me unMalaysian?
I really do like the Petronas Twin Towers. I believe in the national anthem. I love our mixture of cultures that make us so uniquely Malaysians (or unMalaysians, haha). I understand that change cannot be immediate due to the history of our country and I accept that. I think Pak Lah has hoardes of potential if he would only exercise his true power. I appreciate that free speech is more allowed and tolerated under Pak Lah’s governance.
Okay, now I am confused.
Actually, no I am not.
I am a Malaysian, like it or not and it is an issue that goes beyond durians and pandering to your notions of what makes me Malaysian. It is not me who wish to feel so divided. I have hope but little things like this can sometimes make it so hard for me to believe that I am speaking up for my rights as allowed by my citizenship.
So, don’t lah make things so difficult.
Tags: malaysia, suhaini aznam
In UK, most of the Malaysian friends i know would WANT to be identified as chinese MALAYSIAN or Asian. Not chinese from CHINA. Things are apparently more difficult(getting a part-time job, good grades, etc) if you DONT say you are NOT a China’s Chinese.
Kthxbai.
I am proud to be Malaysian Ok. I get to be a Chinese AND eat my pork.
well, double meanings galore in most of these politically inclined comments…
Suanie:
that was what I thought. still…
Vote for Suan.
So fucking sick and tired of how everything in this country has to do with race. I looked at it this way: That is a human being, irrespective of whether she is Chinese, white or Indian or Malay. I would stand up for my fellow human being.
Suhaini Azman should ask himself this: If he is condemning people for being “unMalaysian”, why the hell is he quick to whitewash only Malaysian Chinese in his article? I don’t see how he’s more Malaysian than any of us. Pompous twit.
Suhaini Azman comes across as a complete twat. It’s disappointing to read his statements.
Perhaps we should all take lessons from him on how to be more Malaysian. Obviously in his eyes the rest of us just aren’t good enough. Wanker.
Hujan emas di negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri, lebih baik di negeri sendiri…my ass. Everything that we have and achieved, are through 2 bare hands and a brain. Nothing comes free and this is the universal truth across.
If the above Malay saying rings true, let there be no prejudism or biasness. Give everyone a fair chance to shine, and let all of us take a podium stand when we proudly hoist the Jalur Gemilang in the air.
thanks suanie for pointing out the unMalaysian report to the rest of us.
everyone has already used use the adjective/nouns that i wanted to use for Mr Suhaini - wanker, twit, fucking sick, etc etc.
I am sick of explaining to people that i Am a Malaysian first, Chinese second. In fact, hell, u can call me malaysian period.
btw..what do u guess understand from this?
“Why were Malaysians of Chinese origin so ready to identify with a Chinese from China – as opposed to a Malaysian, irrespective of racial origin? ”
i.e. we identify ourselves more with China Chinese? wtf. screw the writer.
I’ve not been technically living in Malaysia for the past 13 years but am I still Malaysian? Damn right I am.
Stirring up racial issues are just tools for these people to score points amongst the other ignorant ones.
Where the hell does that leave people like me? I don’t fit in anywhere. There is no single descriptor that fits me. I speak 7 languages, and am fluent in 4. I celebrate all the major festivals, save one. I have good friends of any race you care to name.
Biker will do fine as a label, because it doesn’t recognise colour, race, nationality, make, or model.
The rest of you can go to hell. I’m not racist, I hate everybody.
Suanie:
it’s ronery there…
but… but… I don’t want to go to hell
who said i’m chinese but look like malay, who?!?!
*looks at paul*
hehe
Lazy journalism. The editor in Star is sleeping on his job.
*clap* Bravo, excellent post.
You’re right about “It is not me who wish to feel so divided.” It’s ppl like Suhaini that constantly bring up the notion of being “unMalaysian”.
Then there’s also the issue of the inherent equalities from being a bumi vs. a non-bumi. But that’s a post for another day.
Right now I’m proud to say that I came from Malaysia, even though I don’t live there now.
I haven’t been around much, but I do believe that if you go to America, you’ll find quite a large amount of Americans acting not-very-American, just like us…
All over the world, people are just people. We are not so different, you and I…
sorry la, im CHINESE, I have to WORK !
Well said and Syabas to the girl from Chisel Rock.
That writer is incredible, how I wish theStar online would incorporate a comment section. ahhh, the agony
well said, woman. as far as im concerned, it’s the government themselves who got ahead of themselves by apologising to China. cant help it if they were to dumb to wait for PDRM for a thorough report. as for us, it’s the ear squat that is sickening, who’s that lady in the video again? ARGHH
Most of the time, people prefer shortcuts. Not that all shortcuts are good or that it is all bad. In journalism, shortcut is BAD and there, you get the biased one sided report ALL the time.
No matter what people say, we know we are Malaysian. Kudos suanie.
Ok, people, go to today WIKIPEDIA featured article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
and guess what you get
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_153_of_the_Constitution_of_Malaysia
you will get some hilarious and “not-so-hilarious” pictures.
Perhaps they want us all to become Malay. If everyone is Malay in Malaysia then no issue
Suanie:
Nah, I don’t think they would want such hegemony in Malaysia.
Tongue in cheek?
you have made me teeeeeeeeeeeeeerribly late for dinner with reading this post and finding out more
but
*muah*
Fine for you to rant about this issue.
Norazimah Nor (a Malay woman) and 8 other women were forced to strip and do 100 naked push-ups in the Kapar police lockup on Nov 5, 2000 following an arrest along the Kesas Highway for what the police allege was their participation in an illegal assembly.
Suhakam conducted an inquiry into the crackdown by the Police at Kesas Highway. The result of the inquiry was announced in 2003, and they declared that “Norazimah, who was subjected to a full body search while in custody, the panel noted that asking her to strip and to squat was a degrading treatment.”
DAP knew about the incident full well, but did not say anything about human rights then. Suddenly when this video clip issue, they’re falling all over themselves. Why the selective treatment? You tell me who’s being unMalaysian.
Suanie:
So to whom were the questions for? A subtle warning for DAP? Or things need not be spelt out so clearly?
I don’t know. I bought the newspaper, I read it, I was kinda distraught. I am not part of DAP. Contrary to what perceptions that may have been given, I do not follow them blindly. And I am not blind to the fact that they too may play this to their political power.
I didn’t follow such news in 2000 when I was 19 years old. I did not know of Norazimah Nor’s case until your comment. I am actually quite pissed off.
wow! thats a damn good post Suanie. What happen to the bangsa Malaysia thingy…ask him… Is we are all Malaysian then Y the BUMI status ??
Chuckle…now who’s being racist…
Suanie:
According to Article 153, one cannot question nor challenge the special rights. I’m not trying to do that lah, merely a bad choice of words by the journalist injured meh. m00
Very good piece !! (applause) seriously , you should go into politics !!
If we had looked the other way, the brainfart writer would perhaps have called us good Malaysians…model citizenry who CLOSE THEIR EYES and don’t make waves. I have stated firmly in my blog posting that the fact that the victim was a local Malay instead of a foreign Chinese national makes it worse! WORSE! The assified writer has his head screwed on backwards, upside down and inside out. It is little wonder that many of us are suspicious of the agenda of the mainstream media.
Suanie:
hear hear!
Never mind who his question was directed at. What’s more important is the question itself. You’ve seen the blogs that were out there when the news first broke.
A LOT of Chinese were going all out screaming bloody murder, screaming that Chinese were subject to racist treatment and such. But then we find out later that the woman was a Malay, and none of those people said anything.
So yeah, never mind if the question was directed to you or me. It is a very valid question I reckon.
Suanie:
I do get your point. I think total assimilation is another view to be addressed. On the other hand I do not think it is fair to sacrifice a jungle for one tree.
Probably the writer just misses the point that it’s not the race of the detainee that’s the issue here, but the fact that such a disgraceful thing did occur and acknowledged as a “standard operating procedure”. You know, not all mortals are blessed with our superior intellect and unrivalled eloquency.
What I’m suprised at though is how the term “Malaysians of Chinese origin” got so many people riled. As many of you already mentioned, it’s probably directed to DAP in general or Ms Teresa Kok in particular. Nobody knows for sure, except for the author.
And he might be using such a broad meaning phrase on purpose. Probably to avoid unnecessary litigatious troubles if he chooses to specifically name his actual target(s). Probably he’d rather face the wrath of a collective array of vociferous protests from the mostly civilised masses rather than face a concentrated smear campaign by one specific organisation.
I’m neither for nor against what the author wrote. That’re his opinions, and to me opinions can’t be wrong nor right anyway. I’m just saying that like many other, I too, often use simple generalism in order to “not be so obvious”. Some are in fact very popular in the blogosphere… ie. bunch of kris-wielders, bolehland citizens, police state.
It’s merely choice of words… at least that’s how I prefer to look at it. And I’m sure that as a journalist, the guy should stand up for what he writes, regardless of how you or I feel about his writing.
Suanie:
I think it’s a bad choice of words. But that’s me.
I am more disturbed by the implication that after 48 years of hoisting the flag together-gether and sharing durians, I may still be referred to as being unMalaysian due to my ancestors origin. Long elaboration needed, but something like that.
Oh, not another race/patriotism issue again!
I recommend you post this on their Citizen’s Blog. I wanna bet big whether they will publish this or not.
And, BTW, “ALL Malaysians are Malay”, as viewed from the eyes of a foreigner. Don’t believe? Check out this post: http://howsy.blogspot.com/2005/08/ohyoure-from-malaysiaso-youre-malay.html
(Sorry for blog-whoring here har)
Suanie:
lalalala… then what to blog about?
Politicians are stupid because they think we are stupid. Geddit?
Suanie:
:P
I think a few of them are very smart, like me
I always seem to agree with Vincent when it comes to all this issue especially when it involves the Chinese. Let me tell you one thing observed by myself and my parents and my grandparents. Despite being Chinese ourselves, we’re ashamed to have discovered that the Chinese are the most racist bunch of people I’ve ever known. Not only are they racist, they’re also really mean to those not of the same financial status as them.
When things like the nude squat case happened, they cry, “You see how they treat Chinese and blablabla” but never did they EVER reflect on how they treat the other races in this country especially the Indians. I’ve come across many who yell and speak rudely to Malays and Indians and call them names in public. The Chinese are always ever so calculative.
I was glad that the nude squat victim turned out to be a Malay. That’ll ought to shut their mouths up and stop jumping at every opportunity when the whole thing is not about race but human rights.
DAP seem to always fight for the right thing but for the wrong reasons (at first) hence you get something that was somehow moving towards the direction of protecting the Chinese but eventually changed to become a human rights thing which then involved Suhakam. One thing I like about them is, they hear us (the public). Their arguments would stir towards whichever direction the public wants them to. Initially, they might be at lost but once they are able to grasp what the public really wants. They would go all out to fight for our rights. Look at Teresa Kok. True, at first it may seem like she’s fighting for the rights of the Chinese people in this country (be it from China or Malaysian Chinese) but eventually, she’s helping EVERYONE who has been mistreated and I applaud her for that.
And as for the stupid question Suhaini Aznam came up with. He’s already un-Malaysian to come up with such nonsensical statement.
[Note : When I mention Chinese, I'm not generalising every Chinese in this country but just some typical unbearable one]
first, correction–suhaini is a Female, like thee, Suanie.
second, The Star, is an MCA-controlled paper, tho a listed company, so shareholders are not vigilant enough to ask the politicians to lay off!
third> the Star GEIC –ie Group Editor-in-Chief — is a Permanent Reisdent of Australia — I’ve blogged a lot in Jeffooi’s Screenshots stating the case why such a person with spl;it loyalties hsould NOT be allowed to hold such a post with gfeat national power, influence and reach. Wong sulong is thus always playiong “politics” to survive — he’ll be least concenred about journalistic integrity, so go figure how reporters like Suhaini would function.
fourth: yes, these socalled journalists are most times “functionairies” like those Red Guards of oneuponatime China — so ironic that she should allege some Others are so unMalaysian –except for some exceptional ones, but me tehtarik and I’ll name thee a few based on my 25years plus newsman’s experience!
fifth — I wanted to quote Mark Twain on patriotism, butt lazy lah, go readin somewhere in my blog!
PS: THanks suanie for a gre8 post!
No worries mixing up the “gender” of “protagonist” of thy peAce — i once thought that Boy George was female!(
Suanie:
he’s not???
I love this post. Bravo.
I actually wanted to blog about article 153,but since you have blog something related to it ,nvm la
1 Question, i think most of Malaysian have thought that Singapore is the one that requested to separate from Malaysia rite???
I went and ask around from Malaysian,who requested to be separated? Msia or Sg.100% of the answer i get is SG.
Actually it is our Tunku Abdul Rahman PM that ask Singapore to leave Malaysia because for the 13May1969 race riot.
If i remember correctly,this was never published in our school history textbook.
Lee Kuan Yew was against article 153. Read here how and why Singapore was kick out .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew
Guess from what we see today, Harry made a successfully wise choice!
quote me if i am wrong.
Suanie:
a lot of things you wouldn’t learn in your history books. if it is your interest, you will learn more upon entering the ‘real world’. but by then you wouldn’t be able to say who is right or who is wrong, because as corny as it sounds, there is truly no right or wrong, in the history picture anyway.
Most Chinese at that time would have disagreed with the article 153. Most Chinese are self-serving
Suanie is smart and pretty, and according to someone, she totally deserve a boyfriend.
So, why wait? DATE HER, GO!!!
Suanie:
pandai pun
I embrace both. As patriotic as I am, I’m not going to neglect my Chinese heritage. I am proud of it and I also wish to know much more about it than I currently do.
Being Malaysian isn’t something I have to prove by waving in everyone’s face. Likewise with being Chinese. I just AM Malaysian and at the same time I AM Chinese.
yothemans : You should go back to school or something and read up your history before you spew crap. Singapore left Malaysia in 1965. The May 13th incident, as you said, happened in 1969.
i totally love my country and i would stand up for any insult directed to her. i always insult my friends from JB who cannot speak a single word of Malay and can’t even sing my the national anthem (cause they have been stidying in S’pore all thier life)But at the same time i cherish all the tradition that my grandma used to do… even though i dun understand most of it, but i see them as part of a chinese culture assimilated into a malaysian… something that make us Chinese Malaysian different.
But looking back at the issue… what make a chinese unMalaysian? or even a indian unMalaysian? Look at S’pore. There have almost the same kind of community as M’sia, but they do not have to fill a “race” column in many forms… And in Malaysia, we still have this… I wonder if i could generalised this as Malaysia simply have impartial system for different races?
To me, the government must first treat its people the same… be it a Chinese, Indian or Malay… the government must first let us feel belong… make everyone feel the same, as brothers and sisters… the ball is in thier court now
yothemans: i have also asked around about this issue. what i understand is lee kuan yew was asked to leave by Tunku because his influence was too strong among the Chinese in S’pore and is spreading to the Penisula. He was proposing for a Malaysian’s Malaysia which denounce artice 153; equal rights to ALL MALAYSIANS…
ps. an interesting quote i heard was also that Tunku was afraid that Lee Kuan Yew would ran and became the PM of M’sia
OMG! I arrived in Malaysia in 1969 … hope that May 13th incident wasn’t because of something I said!!!!
hear hear Suanie!!
u tell it like it is!
It’s not that I am a Chinese that I readily identify myself in association with the Chinese from China, Singapore or Taiwan. However, who do I identify with as a community? I am labeled as non-Bumi, Pendatang luar, cannot enjoy the NEP which is National Economic Policy, cannot buy ASM shares, not entitled to get APs, cannot have a PKK registered licence with Bumi-status,do not enjoy discounts of 15% for buying houses. My children who vie for places in public Uni will have to be second-rated and not allowed to apply to join UiTM. There is a quota system to follow which clearly differentiate me from the others. There is UMNO which I am not allowed to join, except in MCA.
How do I associate myself with except in common grounds such as - paying taxes, greasing the system enforcers, and casting my votes.
The political system that ruled the nation clearly define each race as it’s own entity. UMNO labels me as Chinese; they never called me a Malaysian during their AGM. It’s only during the general election that I am called Malaysian. Thereafter, I remain a Chinese.
my humble hypothesis is:
Suanie & co are surely good “catalyst” for the next bloody racial riots after 12th GE
(maybe).
The malays won’t give their rights up easily, especially their beloved education institute,I mean mrsm and uitm.Even most of the kampung folks were shredding their tears during the time when Dato’ Nazri said that 10% of the places in mrsm would be allocated to the non-bumis,but finally they had to accept it for the sake of national unity.If the uitm was about to be opened to the non malays,just imagine how atrociously the malays will respond.Perhaps raged orang kampongs would march on the streets and cursing AAB for his lembikness in defending their rights, which are legally mentioned under the article 153 of malaysian constitution.
The main problem within this country,which until now is still yet to be resolved is the economic disparity between races,especially between malays and chinese. If the chinese feel that they are being marginalized(despite monopolizing and conquering almost every economic sector+racist+kiasu attitude towards other races), the malays also feel that their lives before and after independence is still unchanged.I mean,although they are also hardworking,smart and despite being the majority within this democratic country,they still couldn’t compete equally with other races,especially the chinese.I strongly believe if the NEP was succesfully abolished, the country then would be turning back to the pre-1969, and I’m 100% sure that another devastating racial clashes would happen.
To the non-malays,please respect the malays no matter how pissed you are to the si lembik AAP,r-AP-idah,UMNOputra or Barang Naik govermenet. They are, since the independence have sacrifice so much of their rights and almost being toleratable and considerate to other races in order to satisfy them,although they are being backstabbed and pissed off in return. Do not forget that the malays are:
1) Indigenous people of malaya, together with orang asli and other bumiputra of sabah and sarawak before colonization( history never lies,so do not wasting your valuable time doing some crappy research bout origins of the malays;they do had civilization and self-governance before the arrival of the colonials,they didn’t asked the west to colonize them)
2) the malays,based on the population studies done in malaysia are still the majority within this country,and as we all learn in democracy,the power will always be in the hands of the majority.MCA, MIC and gerakan realize this fact,and that’s why they will never openly oppose the UMNO,instead they are working together to form multi-racial,power-sharing BN,only to be turned down by AAB lembikness to become “Barang Naik” party.
3) remember that the malays are still controlling and dominating vital organs of the country; public service, police force and the also big one, the army. If non malays,with their arrogance and stupidness think to directly challange the malays, they should be ready to oppose also the police and army, which are defenitely will on the side of their cousins and relatives. If the non-malays are about to summon help from the foreigners,the malays will be vieving them as a traitor to the country,or the worst as the proxy of their origin country to wrestle malaya from the malays.Malays are known for their “dendam kesumat” and it is possible if the country was forcely counquered and the malays were given choices about people that they would want to kill first, they would said the non-malays rather than the foreign soldiers.
Tha malays, I think has two things in their mind; mengalah and also mengamok.They are very tolerateble towards others, but if anyone who think they are strong and brave enough to test their tolerance level,expect to see parangs and bullets flying on the streets. When that happens,malaysia will be as good as dead!
Think malaysian as a whole, rather than with one-sided,racial based minded.
aiyoo,feeling so headache aaa!
to suanie: be a good girl & have a nice day ; P